Dwimmermount - That's All He Wrote!

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Alex
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Dwimmermount - That's All He Wrote!

Friends, this evening I penned the last paragraph of ACKS Dwimmermount. With LL Dwimmermount written and ready for print, the map book finished, and the megadungeon tracker under way, that means my work - outside of routine project management - is done.

I am very, very proud of how Dwimmermount - both versions - turned out, and I hope it joins the canon of great OSR megadungeons.

And boy will I be glad to work on Lairs & Encounters, Guns at War, Sinister Stone of Sakkara, Secrets of the Undercity, Heroic Companion, and Auran Empire, finally!!!

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Good job!

As someone who found Autarch after all that went down, I'm glad too :)

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Congratulations, Alex! Good on you for making that happen after the project's troubled history. I'm looking forward to seeing the finished product.

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Are you at liberty to state what percent of future sales of the ACKs version will go to you? I am starved for ACKs content, so I am contemplating buying it... but I don't want to encourage this particular venture to ever take precedence over your own unique works.

Alex
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You are very kind to make such a calculus!

At present Dwimmermount is a money-loser for us, so to make a profit at all we will need to sell additional copies.

We do owe Mr. Malizewski a royalty on sales, but it does not kick-in until after his advance is earned-out. His advance was of sufficient size that unless the product becomes quite a best-seller this is unlikely to impact much.

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Alright, helping you guys cut your losses sounds like a worthy purchase.

I play almost exclusively digitally so PDF is my preferred format. Will PDFs be available, or only a book? If it's only a book, will there be any for sale at GenCon?

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Awesome and congratulations Alex! How does a non-kickstarter individual to get a copy? It would be very nice to have an adventure written with ACKS rules in mind.

Alex
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It will be available on DTRPG at month's end. It will be available in retail stores via Studio Two this October/November.

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For all of those folks wanting a giant ACKS adventure or just plain more ACKS product, I would highly recommend picking up Dwimmermount. The project and its use as a general font of gaming fun is huge. Alex's and Tavis' hands are really evident in it's design & presentation in addition to James'.
I am an official Autarch minion so you don't have to believe me, but I have to say that the totality of the book is something unseen in the OSR despite the prior bad mojo.

-Dungeon Tracking Chris

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So, the ACKS product - I was poking around at old links and the KS page.

I take it the surrounding settlements and such (Muntburg?) will be ACKS-ified and whatnot? To what level? Trade modifiers and such? Stronghold values/composition, garrison numbers and types?

IIRC, it's using the old Outdoor Survival map?

I am continually wanting to pry more out of ACKS, I'm moving to the position that Dwimmermount, as a smaller scale than what would presumably be in the Auran Empire book, would be a good reference for what I've been setting up for my own use (and stuff I've been converting to ACKS for the heck of it). Plus it's almost available.

The PDF product is the book and a map?

Alex
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In the ACKS version you get detailed domain characteristics for the entire realm of Adamas (which includes Muntburg), as well as top-level summaries of every named settlement (# of families, income, stronghold value, market class, etc.) and complete demand modifiers and trade routes for the entire region.

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I'm in for a copy once it shows up. No hesitation.

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Over two years ago, I foolhardily leaped into combining ACKS, Dwimmermount and the Known World/Mystara. The three go together very well. I used the backer drafts for (Labyrinth Lord) Dwimmermount, converting to ACKS as needed.

The final LL Dwimmermount and nearing final ACKS Dwimmermount are an absolute beauty and joy!

Congratulations to all involved, and especially Alex, for a tremendous job well-done!!

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I would not be playing ACKS were it not for Dwimmermount; I am pleased that it is finally done (though I've been running it for a year now ^_^)

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I'm going to buy Dwimmermount and then rip it apart, never speaking the name Dwimmermount, but copying wholesale various portions of the dungeon and surrounding environs whenever I don't feel like mapping or statting something. My players will never know the meticulous detail isn't mine unless they click this thread

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That sounds like a plan.

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Hi Autarchs. I just visited DriveThruRPG to see if this was available yet... and it is... but only the LL version. Is the ACKS version pending?

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Congratulations!

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Woot! Woot!

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I am eagerly awaiting the ACKS version. Any new information on when it will be available would be great. (Given that we are a couple weeks past "end of august" now.)

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The last Kickstarter update said ACKS Dwimmer would be on sale on DriveThruRPG Friday the 26th.

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For those who may be interested, I am reposting an update to Dwimmermount backers:

Good evening, Dwimmermountaineers!

I am pleased to report the Dwimmermount Dungeon Tracker is finished. If you backed Dwimmermount at the $25 level or higher, you will have received an email this afternoon with a private link to download the Dwimmermount Dungeon Tracker PDF.

For the 125 elite backers who will be getting a hard copy of the DDT (uh...wow, bad acronym), it'll be arriving in the mail in about three weeks. We sent the file to our printer late last week; from the printer it will go to GameSalute and then to you.

I am also pleased to report that ACKS Dwimmermount is completed. We will be mailing a final PDF of the book to all $10+ backers on Wednesday, October 1st. We expect to receive a proof back from the printer October 6th and, assuming there are no problems, we will begin processing for shipment on October 7th.

Once ACKS Dwimmermount reaches our backers, the Dwimmermount Kickstarter will be officially wrapped up. I recommend that you have 3 months of food, a water purifier, and a respirator on hand for that event, because I really thought an EMP burst was more likely during some of the darker days.

Thanks for your patience and happy gaming!

Best regards,
Alexander Macris
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PS The Dwimmermount Dungeon Tracker will go on sale on DrivethruRPG on October 3rd, and ACKS Dwimmermount will go on sale on DTRPG on October 8th. By end of November, most of our products will be available for print-on-demand via DTRPG as well.

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Good to hear! I'll mark my calendar.

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YEA BOI

that means there'll be a new ACKS kickstarter soon, right?

I've always wanted to kick a start

Alex
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Yes! Soon. When my Sanity Points recover.

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The ACKS version is on RPGNow; thus scheduling my lunch hours for the next couple weeks.

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I bought it!

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Bought! Looking good, if a bit overwhelming :)

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Is there (or will there soon be) a "Dwimmermount complete pack" so that we can be sure we're getting everything? Or even just a list? So far I've discovered:

Dwimmermount itself
Dungeon tracker
Map pack
Art pack

Is there anything more? How much redundancy is there between them? (e.g., Does the main book include all the maps, making the map pack more of a "you only need this if you buy the print version" accessory?) If I want to actually run a party through Dwimmermount, is the core book enough to do that or are the add-ons completely necessary to do so?

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IANAA, but Tavis has said about the Map pack "Yes, [Dwimmermount itself] includes each of the maps as a full page at the start of each dungeon or wilderness chapter. The Dwimmermount Map Book presents them as a two-page spread, designed for printing as a separate booklet." Similarly, I believe both the Art pack and Dungeon tracker can be described as "luxury" add-ons. Dwimmermount itself contains everything needed to run a party through Dwimmermount. IMO, it's a deal for $10.

Dwimmermount (ACKS or LL) and the three add-ons you list are all that I am aware of.

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The Map Pack may be advised if you're looking to run Dwimmermount along with it's implied environs, the wilderness map in my PDF at least is rough to read, and the hex numbers are illegible.

Presumably the Map Book has a larger multi-page production of that.

From the preview of the Dungeon Tracker, it actually looks pretty handy; the rooms are marked up with monsters/traps/items/treasures, and each level gets an overview of what you can do, acces points, faction notes, quick-hits on history.

It's what I'd have to do anyway to prep to run the thing, so it's well worth the money to have someone else do it for you.

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so just to confirm, the dungeon tracker is a separate purchase? I don't mind if it is, I'm happy to toss more $$ at Autarch

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It is, yes; $10. It's well under the time-value-of-money threshold to have a lot of the organizational work done for you. It's meant to print out on 11x17 paper....OfficeMax or whatever can print that out for less than $10 I think.

I kind of hope Dwimmermount's presentation becomes a new norm, there's all sorts of little tidbits and things in here that are just good ideas for anyone's game, even if not a megadungeon.

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I agree, although it's making me a bit sad because the assumed cosmology doesn't work at all for my existing campaign so it would be quite a bit of work for me to adapt. I may be making posts here and in the G+ community shortly to discuss how people are hammering it into their own settings.

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Bummer to hear that. I bought the core pdf last night and have only been browsing the appendices so far. Enough to know that the assumed cosmology doesn't really fit my existing setting (heavily based on Red Tide) either, but not enough to know how pervasive it is in the actual megadungeon itself or whether it can be simply ignored in practice.

From what I've seen of the dungeon tracker in the DTRPG preview of it, I'll probably be getting it, even if I never run Dwimmermount, simply so that I can mine it for ideas on packing more information onto my own dungeon maps. I don't really like it being priced the same as the core book that it summarizes, though... I'd feel better about it if it was, say $15 for core and $5 for the tracker instead of $10 and $10, even though the end result is identical. Human psychology is weird like that.

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I'd feel better about it if it was, say $15 for core and $5 for the tracker instead of $10 and $10, even though the end result is identical. Human psychology is weird like that.


-nDervish

I tend to think that the core module is a steal at $10. The "back" page has a suggested price of $40 :)

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Our retail and PDF pricing ratios have been somewhat skewed because sometimes content cost is driven up by production cost, and then when we assign the PDF as a ratio of that it looks off.

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True, the Awesomeness / Price ratio is extremly high...

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Glad you like the dungeon tracker. Part of the weirdness of the two tier pricing probably comes from the fact that the tracker was done after-the-fact of the main text. (and is spendy to print with full lamination). I agree that if I were to map out more dungeon adventures in the future I would structure it along he same lines as the tracker. (And it would be easier to map/write simultaneously rather than track through and reference the text.)

One of the hard truths, as both an artist AND a DM, is that "the dungeon map" as an inspirational piece of illustration can sometimes be far from "the dungeon map" as a properly organized playing document. The trick is to merge the two. I also advocate for far simpler and compartmentalized dungeon maps that are spatially easy to communicate to players and not beautifully complex simply for the enjoyment of the DM. Time will tell if the Module Mapping Revolution will happen.

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Eh. I don't think it's that limiting; 'planets' are just 'planes' with a spare "t". The Red Eld could easily be redone as Drow or something similar, to be made local, perhaps.

May be worth another thread though, so as not to hide something that may be generally useful up in here.

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Bought it!

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Bought it!

Alex
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Thanks for the support!!!

There is not a Dwimmermount complete pack, although that's a nifty idea.

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Reviving an old thread here, but I wanted to add my voice to those praising Dwimmermount, and also to mention that I found ACKS because of the ACKS version of Dwimmermount, so double-win for me!