Weight of a rider?

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wilmer
Joined: 2011-10-19 17:02
Weight of a rider?

How many stones enc. is a rider? Calculating the 'dead weight' of a body is easy but I assume riders weigh their mount down less as they actively rebalance themselves. I'd pick the average of STR and CON in stones but there might be a better assumption or something I've missed. A problem with this assumption is that an average man (11 stones) wearing plate armor, a shield, a lance and a bow (total 20 stones) could still ride a light horse at full speed, somehow that seems wrong.

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These threads:

http://www.autarch.co/forums/house-rules/humanoid-weights

http://www.autarch.co/forums/ask-autarchs/people-horses

has some relevant info; and L&E has a lot more for weights, at least.

The general default for a normal man is 15 stone. 

I'm not sure about the 'active rebalancing', not being a rider myself, but I would say there becomes a point at which if you're taking weight off due to calculated or assumed efficiencies, you've got to add it back on elsewhere to be complete - I'm not sure anyone takes note of the encumbrance of saddle and tack, for instance.

 

wilmer
Joined: 2011-10-19 17:02

Compare carrying a concious and unconcious person on your shoulders. Thanks for the links! The monster wieght list is great.

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Sure - or, a small child sleeping versus one fighting/goofing.

To extend the thought, would you have to have a difference between a mount/rider at a travelling pace and the mount/rider in combat? The rider's gonna be a bit occupied not getting killed, and may not be (or, actively working against) optimal balance.

 

wilmer
Joined: 2011-10-19 17:02

I wouldn't do anything since that would be more complexity than I want but if I did there are a couple of things to consider:

In mass combat your charges will be slower than the maximum speed of your mount to keep the formation together.

Horses tire, instead of modelling the weight vs. speed there should be a model of weight vs. endurance (with speed decreasing over time). Mongol warriors had several horses (7 or 8 was not uncommon) and would switch several times during battle to keep them fresh. Knights would use different horses for battle and travel, also to keep their battle mounts rested.