Monstrous Humanoids vs Beastmen, more Chaotic Chaos

This is a good place to tie back in to "my" dwarves. Dwarves don't have gods. Instead, they have a form of ancestor worship and belief in a time-bound afterlife. When a dwarf dies, his soul goes to the Great Workshop, where it labors to protect mortal dwarves from supernatural foes. The soul of a dwarf only lasts as long as something the dwarf created is still existent in the world. This is why their traditional leaders are Craftpriests. Those who work in stone or metal are the most highly regarded, for their works will last for centuries if nothing goes wrong. Farmers are regarded as very nearly the lowest of the low, for crops last no more than a year or so before being either eaten or replanted. Dwarves mark objects that are intended for export with secret craft-marks that virtually no non-dwarves can identify. These objects are well made, but are not intended to be the anchors of a dwarven soul. A non-dwarf, any non-dwarf, with an object that was clearly made by a dwarf but does not have the craft-mark will draw instant, unremitting hostility from any dwarf, because it means the immortality of a dwarven soul is in the hands of a non-dwarf. This is not tolerable. Wars have been started over a human noble possessing the wrong dwarven sculpture. Orcs are known to engage in spiritual warfare against dwarves by taking the arms and armor of slain dwarves, partially melting them and twisting them into useless slag, then using catapults to launch them into the courtyards of dwarven fortresses.

 

The Craftpriests are the most righteous of dwarves, those who are able to channel the power of their ancestors to protect and heal their people and their allies. Furies are dwarves who have sacrificed their chance for immortality to become powerful warriors, capable of slaying many mortal foes. Vaultguards are pretty much normal dwarves. Delvers are almost a sort of holy warrior, breaking the objects of other races so their ancestors will go to their final death. Machinists, though...machinists are heretics. Every good dwarf knows that dwarfishness revolves around doing work with ones own hands. Machinists, though, have become focused on efficiency, on creating things to do work for them. This offends traditional dwarves. Furies will often get along with Machinists, since both are pragmatists at heart, but Vaultguards will be split, and Craftpriests will almost never tolerate the presence of a Machinist. Some Delvers try to break Machinists' creations, to eliminate the undwarfishness among the dwarves, but others take the practical outlook that they're all trying to help in their own way.

 

Dwarves will respect any smith or mason, be neutral towards woodworkers, have little respect for farmers or alchemists, and have no respect for a person with no skill at creating things. Truly great artisans may be invited to spend time in a dwarven region, teaching their craftsdwarves new techniques and thus strengthening the souls of the dwarves. This is rare, and the dwarves do not usually teach techniques in return, but they will pay very well.

What a splendid thread!

Delightful! I'm definitely incorporating some of this into my game, perhaps as a competing faction to the Viking-dwarves and the Mechanist-dwarves.

So, the next step is probably to start on my local map. But before I can do that, I have to pick which part of the game to put the local map in. Deciding on a region limits what kinds of things I can run within that region, which leads me to the realization-

I'm really pleased with all the neat stuff I have planned, but it's all on OPPOSITE SIDES OF THE WORLD. What the hell, past me? Did you really think players were going to spend time in both the deserts of not-africa and the tundras of the arctic? How were you going to move them from one place to the other?

So, at this point, my options are:

1. Figure out what setting stuff I just never want to use. Goodbye, gnolls! :-(
2. Come up with an excuse for bouncing the players all over the world to hit all the hotspots. You're... uh... gladiators... on a... magic... train... Yeah that's not going to work well either. :-(
3. REWRITES

I think the easiest solution is to declare Ursa Major the starting zone. I think polar bear secession is an interesting environment. We can just apply a lens filter to the gnolls to make their sandmobiles into snowmobiles and make them wolves instead of hyenas. Plus, you know, BEARS VERSUS GNOLLS, NATURAL ENEMIES! Tell me you don't want to see an armored bear fighting a wolf motorcycle gang.

The arctic is also already on the coast, so it's easy to include mer-stuff. Plenty of mountains and trees, so dwarves and elves are present. I think I'll redraw the map so Zahar is closer, so I can have the orc invasion arc if I need to. That'll require rewriting a little bit of the backstory, but that's fine. The aztecs don't get to play as big a role, but that's fine, narratively I didn't know what to do with them.

Once I redraw the world map a little, I can start on the local map, and while I'm working on that, I'm also going to be mulling over some generic RPG-setup questions. The big ones for me are:
1. What level should the PCs start at? I think we've all been level 1-4 enough for a lifetime. I'm so sick of the endless cycle of joining a game at level 1, grinding desperately to just past 3, and then the campaign falls apart because Dave's new job has him working nights and Steve keeps having funerals to go to on game night because everyone he loves surely dies. So then you eventually join a new game at level 1 again and you go your whole life without getting to cast Teleport. On the other hand, for the reasons I just mentioned, I'm most familiar with the lower levels. I don't think I'd start a party off at 14th, I'd have no sense of scale. It'd be weird. 

2. Do I want to establish some kind of concept for the party? In another ACKS game I'm in, the DM has declared that all PCs are part of the same secret society, and new PCs joining are agents from the homeland just arriving. This removes the need for the gathering-of-the-party episode that's almost always a nightmare of a first session, and makes it less awkward to meet a cloaked stranger on the road and immediately accept him into your inner circle because he's Dave's new mage. With the societ society thing, well, if he knows the passwords, he's trustworthy, done and done. Plus it provides an easy device for introducing new NPCs- "Your contacts within the guild inform you that a Mr. Byrnner is in Adamantus and worth speaking to. He is of your order and may have gifts to give or favors to ask." 

2A. If so, what kind of concept? Right now I'm leaning towards they're all former gladiators, with bonds forged in blood. This establishes them as a team familiar with each other, but not with the starting region, which is good, because the players will be at least a little familiar with each other, but not with the starting region.

2B. Or not 2B. That is the question.

I personally vote for exmilitary auxiliaries. the empire would naturally have a bunch of soldiers who wernt full time and just basically get dumped in an area when the empire is done with them. It would also help explain why these members are leveled. It also allows more freedom of backstory for characters sinve wizard gladiator is kind of crazy but wizard who served in the empires 5th auxillary makes sense. the party could be the lieutenants left behind, the captains and generals went with the main force as it moved on and all the soldiers have moved on since the players couldnt afford them anymore. The few who stick around would be the henches.

So, with the Panzerbjorn kingdom selected as the regional map, let's start thinking about zooming in. It's actually almost exactly the size of a regional map, so that's great! Now, a regional map should be 50% wilderness, but I don't think that conflicts with what we know about the bear lands if we make a large portion of their "kingdom" just empty, although I think in official terms this might make them a chunky principality if they only have 600 occupied hexes out of the 1200 encompassed by their borders.  Whatever. That's fine. So, 250 familes per hex, 600 hexes, 150,000 families. 3/4ths of a million people, roughly, live in the updated Bear Kingdom. 150k is half the maximum size for a principality, so the King in the North collects about 33k from his domains, and 15k from his cities. He has a stronghold worth 360,000. (For a sense of scale, 360,000 could buy 55 gatehouses, 5 keeps, a million square feet of 10 foot deep filled moats, a wall 60 feet high and 10 feet thick and 1600 feet long, or, HOPEFULLY, some combination featuring a handful of each of those.)

Anyway, the largest settlement in the Panzerpality is a City. Then there's a handful of Large Towns, and then we get into Class VI territory and stop mapping. I might throw a Large Village in just out of pity for Class V's. 

In a minute I'll put Hexographer on my work computer and actually map this out, and then I should have a working Regional Map by the end of the day. 

one closer inspection I have no idea how big mountains are. How TALL they are, sure, but width? Total mystery. Can you fit a mountain into one six-mile hex, or should it be a whole cluster? Or is a mountain small enough you could have two in one hex? This merits some examination before I continue. 

Mauna Loa is about 4 miles by 2 miles, and it's a huge mountain, so in general one should be able to fit a pair of mountains or more into a 6 mile hex.

On the other hand, everest has a circumference of 64 km, making it almost 12 miles in diameter, so it would seem REALLY big mountains can fill multiple hexes. 

Now, obviously, we don't want every mountain to be everest, but there's nothing wrong with going a little nuts for fantasy's sake. 

Open up your favorite mapping service, turn on topography and contour lines, and measure.

e.g. https://www.google.com/maps/@39.0588695,-120.0120182,11z/data=!5m1!1e4

It's about 6 miles from the lakeshore, over Genoa Peak, and down to the flatland on the opposite side.

It's about 10 miles from the lakeshore, over Martis Peak (north side, you'll probably have to zoom in once or twice to get the marker to display), and down to Hinton along I-80.

It's about 4 miles from Martis Peak to Relay Peak, then a mile to each of Tamarack Peak and Mount Houghton, another mile to Mount Rose... These things don't cleanly fit in a 6-mile hexmap (he says from experience).

 

OKAY SO, REGIONAL MAP IS MOSTLY DONE! Link at the bottom.

So, the settlement suggests having 15 "Static Points of Interest" represent human and demihuman settlements, including castles. I've done that! I'll write up descriptions for them eventually, but it should be fairly clear. My experience is that most cities are named after people, other cities, or whatever happened to be nearby, and as you go further back in time, the more of the third kind you find. Thus, most of my city names are just relevant nouns thrown into google translate. (I also took a couple years of German in college, so I still retain a toddler-level vocabulary.

As you can see, 15 landmarks makes for a good start on filling in the map, espicially the lower half where the players will spend a lot of their early-game. (Although, since I'm starting them at level 5 or so, their early game will be much shorter.)

Now I just need to come up with 30 dungeons and put them on the map- Actually, this is important, should I put all 30 starting dungeons and lairs on the map? It seems like it might be more fun for the players to fill it in as they go. Heck, I may not even give them the hex-map that I use, and instead redraw the whole thing by hand to make it feel less gamey. Hexes are so artifical-looking, you know?

 

 

 

 

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Making progress on my 45 starting locations! Here's the playerside blurb for one:

 

Quadstrich Lair: Ostriches are the worst, most people believe. They are unaware of the Quadstrich. Bred during the war by Malkiznek by crossbreeding ostriches with additional ostriches, these creatures have double the legs, double the raw hatred, and at least twice as many venomous talons.

[quote="susan_brindle"] ...crossbreeding ostriches with additional ostriches... [/quote]

LOL - 'You know what this ostrich needs? More ostrich.'

I like to think that quadstriches might have two necks and heads as well, with a chance on encounter for one of the heads to be buried in sand. 

Let's make a dungeon. I'll be rolling randomly as much as possible, and then just Forge The Narrative as much as possible to make it coherent.

First, we roll 1d20 to determine the overall type. 13! It's a ruined manor. I think it'll have thirteen rooms too, because that's an unlucky number.  Roll some dice and we get...

  1. Monster
  2. Unique
  3. Unique
  4. Unique
  5. Empty
  6. Empty
  7. Empty
  8. Empty
  9. Unique
  10. Empty
  11.  Empty
  12.  Empty
  13.  Trap
  14.  Empty
  15.  Monster

Wow! This is going to be a very weird dungeon. That's two monster rooms, four unique, one trap, and eight empty. Let's check for treasure now. No treasure in any of the empty rooms or trap rooms! Jeez, what a rough place. I think this is a dungeon for the later game, so I'll declare that it's all Level 3. Rolling for my two monster rooms, I get Ogre and Werewolf. The ogres are... *not* in a lair, but the werewolves are. There's eight werewolves, with treasure type J.  Here's what the werewolves possess, as per the generator on this site:

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Werewolf Lair: Eight Werewolves (Seven Normal, one Pack Leader)
Approximate Treasure Worth: 6,060 gp

1,000 Electrum
1,000 Silver

3 crates of armor and weapons, worth 225gp each (10 stone each)
6 crates of terra-cotta pottery, worth 100gp each (5 stone each)
2 bags of loose tea, worth 75gp each (5 stone each)
9 jars of lamp oil, worth 20gp each (6 stone per jar)
7 bundles of fur pelts (such as bear, beaver, or fox), worth 15gp each (3 stone per bundle)
35 rolls of garishly dyed cloth, worth 10gp each (4 stone each)
78 animal horns worth 20gp each (1 stone per 5 horns)

1 brass trinkets (40 gp)
1 brass trinkets (90 gp)
1 brass trinkets (120 gp)
1 porcelain trinkets (700 gp)
1 wrought silver trinkets (800 gp)

Potion of Speed

Crossbow Bolts +1 (Quantity: 8)

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Wow. These are some eccentric werewolves. They love garish cloth, animal horns, and pottery. They also have a supply of tea. They seem very sophisticated. Perhaps they're fashionistas, preparing fabulous outfits and viking hats for some purpose?

There are also five ogres in the house. They don't live have a lair, so they travelled to the lair for a reason. They're either there for one of the Unique things, or they came specifically for the werewolves. Do they want to fight, or are they there on business? I just rolled a Reaction Roll for them, and got a 10. That's pretty positive. I think the groups know each other fairly well, and the ogres have come to make some kind of deal with the wolves. But what do they want?

Maybe the ogres want to buy garish cloth for rituals. Perhaps the ugly patterns are actually runes that honor Nehr'Zul, their lich-god. Somebody has to make all those unholy scrolls and cursed tapestries, after all.

Maybe the ogres *brought* the cloth, and need the werewolves to perform some service for them. Perhaps one of the Unique rooms has a magic mirror or something that ogres can't enter.

Hmm, I can't think of one being obviously superior. Let's introduce a little more information by rolling on this chart. http://www.d20pfsrd.com/extras/community-creations/house-rules/random-encounters/encounter-motivations.

A 69! Number of prophets! "Prevent Event." Interesting. What events would ogres be against? Well, in my campaign setting, ogres come in two flavors: Zaharan Ogres, who are still part of the "empire" and in contact with other ogres and actively working to regain control of the world, and Survivor Ogres, who have been cut off from society. Humanoids hate ogres, so Survivor Ogres have to hide in caves and dark places, lest they be hunted down. I think these are the latter kind- They have a lair nearby, and their main motive is self-preservation.

What events might threaten them? Humans! They've heard that someone is thinking about building a settlement, and they want the werewolves to murder the surveyors. They can't do it themselves because if anyone comes to investigate, they can't afford to have ogre tracks found.

So that's their motivation. They brought garishly dyed cloth because they're descended from a master wardrobe stylist and the making of dye has been passed down for generations. They're determined to stay "civilized."

Lycanthropy is a physical corruption, not a mental one. The human brain stays intact, it just shares a body with something bestial now. Werewolves often feel bad about what they do, and are afraid of losing their humanity. The cloth is a fine bribe, because pants and fine dresses are very human. They're not 100% on board with murder yet though, so the ogres have been in the manor for a few days dropping by from time to time to say Emperor Palpatine stuff. "What loyalty do you owe them? The ones who cast you out, beat you and cut you with silver? You're different then them. You think they won't come here with spears and torches next? That they will ever let you rest? Humanity is the most violent race there is- they have even weaponized guilt, driven spears of it through your limbs so you can't even struggle as they come cut out your heart."

So now we need four unique rooms. First, let's check how we're doing on treasure- We want about 4 times the XP value of all the dungeon's monsters. That's 700 for the ogres, and 1080 for the wolves, total 1780, so "by the book" there should be  about 7000 gold of treasure. We've got 6000 right now, so we can add a little more to the unique rooms.

So, when I wrote "dresses" awhile back I realized there could be some lady werewolves. In fact, what if this manor is actually a church/monastery thing, and the werewolves are nuns? I think the story of this place is that it got attacked by werewolves, and although they fought the wolves off (holy water being in abundance, after all) they only had a 5th level cleric for their Mother Superior, so she couldn't Cure Disease the survivors. Instead, she encouraged them to kill themselves to preserve their purity. Six of them chose to live, and two uninfected sisters chose to infect themselves (as werewolves risk uncontrollably murdering humans, but can co-exist with other wolves just fine.) Since then, life has more or less gone back to normal.

UNIQUE ROOM ONE:

The Mother Superior's ghost haunts the manor, and espicially the podium in the chapel, where her skeletal remains are slumped. Sometimes she manifests to preach hellfire and brimstone and encourage the werewolves to kill themselves. She's really pissed. Near the podium is a large stone basin containing ten gallons of holy water. If the party appeases her or banishes her somehow, she'll let them take it, although they'll have to bring their own consecrated containers, which makes the financial viability of this limited, so I'm not going to count it as a thousand gold, even if that's the actual value.

UNIQUE ROOM TWO:

Library! This room contains a number of uninteresting, boring books. The interesting ones are a log of the monastery's history, written by the Mother Superior, as well as a couple rare books, worth 200 gold and 100 gold respectively, entitled "Conquering Regret and Moving Forward: A Guide To Spirtual Fortitude, by Zebatrus, Inventor of Owlbears" and "An Abridged Reference Guide to Snow Demons." The history book can be sold to the church for 500 gold.

UNIQUE ROOM THREE:

This is a lot of dungeon, I'll finish it later. Still, I'm pretty proud of it so far-

 

Let's check Goblin Punch's Dungeon Checklist real quick: http://goblinpunch.blogspot.com/2016/01/dungeon-checklist.html

1. Something to steal (Big pile of fabric!)
2. Something to kill (Ogres!)
3. Something to kill you (Werewolves!)
4. Different Paths (This'll have to wait till I actually draw rooms)
5. Someone to talk to (Werewolves AND the ghost!)
6. Something to experiment with (Well, there's our next Unique thing)
7. Something the players probably won't find (There's our last Unique thing, I think)

 

I think we're on track for a good dungeon though!

So, after much thought, I think this is a neat little scenario, but there's not enough going on for it. A 5th level party isn't going to be very happy if their entire expedition to the Spooky Manor on their map yields less than 2k each. Also, the party may well choose to negotiate with the werewolves and thus deny themselves most of the 6k there, so let's not punish the players for being reasonable.

 

 

So let's throw in the Tomb of the Grumpy Saint. Hoarder would probably work best for things found in a tomb. How much should it be worth? Well, personally, I'd say that as a player, I like progression, and I don't trust games to last a long, long time, so I'd say that if I get less than a quarter level's XP on a given session, I'm unhappy. So depending on whether I'm 4th or 5th level, and what class I am, that's somewhere in the ballpark of wanting my share  to be 2000-5000. If we're a party of four with no henches, that means total treasure should be between 8000 and 20,000. If we're a a party of six, 12,000 and 30,000. If we're a party of six with a total of twelve henches, then 24,000 to 60,000.

Thaaat's quite a variance. I don't think this method is gonna work. Screw it. Let's just go triple N.

We get: 

(One chest of gems and coins containing 8,665 worth)
2,000 Gold
1,000 Electrum
1,000 Silver
1 beast parts jewelry (15 gp)
1 chalcedony (75 gp)
1 jacinth (1,000 gp)
1 turquoise (25 gp)
1 wrought silver jewelry (400 gp)
1 crystal (50 gp)
1 silver studded with turquoise jewelry (4,000 gp)
1 wrought silver jewelry (500 gp)

plus 

12 pieces of ivory (1 stone per 100gp value), each worth 72gp
1 barrels of fine spirits or liquor, worth 200gp each (16 stone each)
1 rich fur coat (1 stone each), worth 1,000gp
3 statuettes (1 stone per 1d3 statuettes), each worth 1,000gp
19 pieces of ivory (1 stone per 100gp value), each worth 94gp
400 monster feathers (1 stone per 25 feathers), each worth 5gp


and then in the magic item department: 
Potion of Invulnerability

Cursed Scroll (Inflicting: One random ability score suffers a -4 penalty)
Scroll of Arcane Spells (Written in Common): Dispel Magic (3rd lvl)
Scroll of Arcane Spells (Written in Draconic): Magic Missile (1st lvl), Charm Person (1st lvl)
Scroll of Ward against Undead
Scroll of Arcane Spells (Written in Dwarven): ESP (2nd lvl)
Scroll of Ward against Magic
Scroll of Ward against Elementals
Scroll of Ward against Lycanthropes
Treasure Map (to 1d6 gems, 2d10 jewelry)
Treasure Map (to 2 magic items)
Treasure Map (to 5d6x1000gp)

Potion of Heroism
Potion of Extra-Healing

Sword +1
Sword +1, light 30' radius
Sword +1, light 30' radius

Helm of Alignment Changing

Well, there's way too many scrolls here not to include a caster monster. They're all arcane, too, so it's apparently a mage. I propose that this monastery was built to protect the Tomb of Saint Avandaryl, a powerful mage who fought for his country until he fell afowl of a Helm of Alignment Changing. Randomizing Alignment sounds stupid, espicially within the cosmology I've set up, so this is actually just a Helm of Corruption. Also, since a wizard put it on, it probably doesn't look like a helmet. Therefore, this is a Pointy Wizard Hat of Corruption. It is blue with stars and crescents. 

So, Avandaryl will manifest as Lesser Lich, a being whose soul is bound to an phylactery, but who can't reform their undead body, so once they're slain, they're just an intelligent item. In this case, the hat. For stats, I'll do normal wizard, but give vampire immunities. With all those swords, it looks like he has three Skeletal Knights to defend him, as well as probably a number of regular skeletons. Gotta let fighters Cleave!

 

Now, that's the tombfight itself, which is one room. We've still got another Unique room, which I think needs to be some kind of tricky puzzle to access the tomb. I'm thinking animated statue that gives riddles sort of thing, but riddle-games are so binary. I need to think about that end more. I'm also contemplating a magic pipe organ, for obvious reasons. (they're great)

Random Idea: 

 

Reverse Bootleg DVDs: Organized Magic, while incredibly shady and problematic, does agree that necromancy is a bigger problem. The arrogance and cruelty of the powerful is insignificant compared to actually bringing raw evil into the world to make corpses into murder engines. 

Thus, the Wind Mage of the North is charged with stopping the spread of necromancy in his domain, where it's most problematic. He doesn't have the manpower to police every hedge-wizard, so he begins a disinformation campaign. Suddenly the black market is full of necromantic tomes, just lousy with them. None of them work. Some explode when read because of curse traps. Some are very nearly the correct ritual but not quite. 

The Wind Mage also suspects that ordinary books are being used to transmit secret messages, so he starts printing those, too. He builds a gigantic magical printing press called the Untruth Engine and it churns out every book imaginable, but broken and changed in subtle ways. Some suspect that it is adding its own secrets; but then again, statistics assures us that randomness will often look planned. 

Adventurers get hired to find particular volumes; maybe destroy them, maybe retrieve them. For high level play, the Engine itself is a target. 

I love this idea, and can offer only this in response:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=3&ved=0ahUKEwiD1fao9ZvMAhVMMyYKHfImADYQFgguMAI&url=https%3A%2F%2Flibraryofbabel.info%2FBorges%2Flibraryofbabel.pdf&usg=AFQjCNGEiwII7chXUOMbwd43tUCrMjaS4Q&sig2=sPfSYTS1RQXLLtKz7gRLiQ

I think I had the wrong approach the last time I tried to make a dungeon. A dungeon is, very technically, a bunch of rooms, but humans are also very technically a bunch of cells, and trying to write a human cell by cell would be pointless and bad. 

 

I think it would be better to think about the dungeon in terms of its One Unique Thing, to steal phrasing from 13th age, and how that impacts its ecology. I think OSR dungeons are fundamentally about "ecology" and the interaction of neighbors, right? 

So, what's special about this dungeon? I think the centerpiece of this dungeon is that it has an ancient evil shrine that some cultists were trying to repair. They schismed, and half of them became skeletons and were exiled, while the other half are hanging around worshipping the shrine.

The skeleton home base is on the other side of an underwater tunnel, since they don't need to breathe this gives them easy access to a number of places in the dungeon. 

I think the shrine contains a particularly corrupt fire elemental, bound to this realm for all eternity and trying to make the best of it but also furious about it and prone to rages. Actually, if he created the skeletons, they probably have sweet burning eye sockets, and die if their skulls are submerged in water. They still use the underwater tunnels; the leaders have glass jars they use to keep their heads dry; the ones lower on the totem pole have to use buckets. 

Since now we're supposing a large, underwater network, that means that this dungeon is either very poorly maintained and largely flooded, or it just has a sweet sewer system. Let's do the second. It's a dwarven vault! And no dwarf fortress is complete without a dumb megaproject. What were these dwarves up to?

Let's see... how about 
1. Breeding giant spiders for silk and homeland defense.
2. Drilling into the earth's core. (Hence the bound fire elemental) 
3. ??? I think there's room for one more thing, since the other two seem kinda mundane and dwarfy.

So, large portions of the vault are full of giant spider webs, who prey on... something. Macro-creatures in an underground biome is always a bit weird, this can be cleaned up. So here's where this is going: the party has reason to believe that there's a big pile of gems at the end of the portion of the dungeon now known as the Spider Caves. The shrine is sitting just next to a big shortcut that doesn't include spiders. There are probably a few more wrinkles to add complexity that I'll add in a day or so, but for now I'm pretty happy with thi-

I HAVEN'T MAPPED IT AT ALL YET AND THAT'S THE HARDEST PART FOR ME augh dang it I really thought I was getting the hang of this. I'll be back next post with a map I guess. 

i usaly take a map of another dungeon and then adapt it to my idea, its hard to tink good labrynts, but easy to adapt the work or others more skilled.